This made me laugh
According to aleruscenter.com, "There will be no Public Walking this Friday, April 4th, due to the Democratic National Convention." Wow, pretty good for Grand Forks!
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78 comments:
Maybe getting both Obama and Hillary made them think it really was the national convention.
Any thoughts on TJ Oshie leaving his team early to join the St Louis Blues?
Man, that was low.
April Fools Day is the 1st, not the 2nd.
Anyone see the GF Herald City Breifs on Monday?
There was an ad about protesters meeting at the Alerus from 4 to 7pm.
How do you protest against an empty shirt that gives speeches?
Check out the New York Times' presidential candidate schedules here:
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/schedules/upcomingevents/index.html
I vote they decide to meet up in Northwood and stay away from GF. Might help out that town.
Bill Ayers, a terrorist fugitive, teacher from Il will be in Gf this week and is a known friend of Obama's.
Who is in town to greet Hillary?
Hillary's still running?
She's trying to run. Mostly squirming, though.
The presidential candidate visit will probably cost about $10,000 in police and security cost (including traffic, security, SWAT and bomb team standbys, etc) Hardly sounds remotely like anything that would help Northwood, now does it?
Hell, it don't sound like it will help GF either.
Who's paying the $10,000 bill?
Those kinds of things are usually budgeted under Misc.
Leave it to someone in Grand Forks to play Debbie Downer regarding a historic moment.
Grumble, grumble. Bet your glass is always half full.
At least we're getting something for our money; they spent that and more when Dick Cheney blew...er...flew...into town.
And he only spoke to a few well-heeled cheerleaders privately at Cabela's.
Enough already with the 'historic moment' blah blah.
It is a historic moment. Can you prove otherwise? Nope, didn't think so.
Hopefully Barrack will have his cracker moment* in G.F. That would really give the town some exposure.
*Opposite of macaca moment.
Why is it an "Historic Event"?
Why is it a "Historic Event"?
1 - I can take my kids and let them watch the two contenders for a major political office speak. I can let them see what it's like to be part of a political party. I can let them watch Fox News or CNN Saturday and when the video from Grand Forks comes on, we can say "we were there". I can't remember an opportunity like this presenting itself in North Dakota or even Western Minnesota in my lifetime.
2 - I don't have to be a major campaign donor (or even a Democrat, for that matter) to make this happen. I get free tickets for the family, and follow the rules, I don't have to spend one red cent. Looking back through history, I can't remember an opportunity like this happening before.
3 - The sheer number of people expected will make this one of the top 5 largest events at the Alerus Center. More people will attend the speeches than any UND football game, convention at the Cannad, or most of the music concerts. The attendance will be recorded in the Alerus Center for posterity.
4 - I'll be talking about this week for years. It's exciting to see this all come together.
What's your definition of "historic"?
Cher
I was just curious because as someone posted, the candidates schedules weren't even showing GF in places like the NY Times.
I would think unless one of them says something stupid, the main stream media will barely mention this stop. Maybe a 2 second blurb on the nightly news.
(when I say something "stupid" I mean something way out there, beyond their usual campaign BS - like Hillary in Bosnia or Obama's "I didn't listen to Rev Wright")
Cher is historic, alright. The face lifts and makeup help preserve her quite adequately.
With all the money both canidates raise, can't they spend their own damn money on this stop instead of it coming out of the Grand Forks budget.
They will both be in Butte Montana for the MT Democratic State Convention. It's historic, but GF is not the only place this is happening. Butte and GF are both holes in the ground (Butte just has a more literal hole)
I forgot to mention that they will be in Butte, MT on Saturday night...
To the fellow " Bill Ayers and Osama Obama are both terrorists" ? where did you get your info ? greenglass4.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html
greenglass4
Why not talk in complete sentences for once on this blog? Your posts are a bunch of rambling nonsense.
The future President of the U.S. is going to be in GF. That is historic.
1 - I checked the candidate's web sites. Obama's mentions the stop in Grand Forks (go to the find an event icon in the top right hand corner and enter your zip code). Clinton's does not, although it does include an offer from the Rhombas Guys for Hillary to stop by and talk to the locals.
2 - Does anyone have any HARD NUMBERS on the cost of the candidate's visit to Grand Forks that will be shouldered by the city of Grand Forks? How does it compare to the costs involved with Cheney's visit to EGF or the Bush visits to Fargo? I'll even let you include the costs associated with policing the protesters outside and any traffic control hours. I'd be interested to see how much this costs versus the economic impact of 10,000 to 15,000 people arriving to hear the speeches.
"The future President of the U.S. is going to be in GF. That is historic."
Only from a very narrow POV.
If you feel that educating our community and youth is a narrow point of view, then you really need to rethink your own perspective. Whether you support either candidate or not, it is a historical moment and a big deal for GF. Quit whining. You don't have to go.
I can't believe how many mean spirited people there are on this blog. Kudos to the poster who's taking his kids to see the candidates speak and sees this as the historic event that it is. Go. Have fun and enjoy!
Do you take your kids to city council, school board or county commission meetings or just wait for the once-in-a-lifetime experience?
"The future President of the U.S. is going to be in GF. That is historic."
That's funny, I hadn't heard that McCain was coming too.
Ohhhhhh, wait.....maybe you meant this FALL or LATE SUMMER the future President of the U.S. is going to be in GF. Okay, I get it now. ;)
I'm also taking my kids to see Obama and Clinton. And yes, they've gone to the City Council meetings and they've been to the capital building in Bismarck and they've met some state-level politicians of both political parties.
They're excited to see this part of the political process. My older child has already studied the candidates as part of a class she's taking in high school, so it's very meaningful.
As a voter, I'm glad to be there. It's a wonderful opportunity.
We'll remember that, Kelly, and remind you in November!
*L*
I have been teaching my daughter about both of these candidates since they've been running. This election will no doubt be discussed when she is taking high school government class. She is only 5, but she can tell you who the "big three" candidates are and why these two particular candidates are important, and also why this election is historic. Whether the Democrats win or lose the November election (but particularly if they win), the fact that the nomination will go to either a female candidate and an African American candidate is not only historic, but about damn time.
I will be taking her to see them, and I hope that this memory of being able to see these two candidates in person inspires her to be an active citizen and voter who fully appreciates her rights and liberties in this country.
Cheers to every parent who will be bringing their children to this event and who are teaching their children about the democratic process. It is one of the greatest liberties we have as Americans and in a country that so often throws the word "patriotic" around as though all it involves is supporting the troops and the current president or slapping a yellow ribbon magnet on their car, I am instead teaching my child that the most patriotic thing you can do in this country is to become informed and VOTE!
"We'll remember that, Kelly, and remind you in November!"
No skin off my nose. I've been a Chicago Bears fan for most of my life, so I'm used to getting things rubbed in! ...Frickin' Colts. Ha, Ha!
As for the "Obamarama-Hillarally", (MUCH respect to the anonymous poster who first coined that on here, I've been referring to it as that all week!)I went to get new tires on my car today here in Tampa Palms, and the guy behind the counter said, "From North Dakota, huh? (I was wearing a Fighting Sioux shirt) What's going on up there these days?" I said, "Nothing much, team's going to the Frozen Four, and I guess Obama and Hillary will be in my hometown this Friday for a rally." Without missing a beat, the soccer mom standing in line behind me says "Well, I suppose North Dakota could use the hot air this time of year."
The whole room died. It was priceless.
"Well, I suppose North Dakota could use the hot air this time of year."
That's the most honestly correct thing I've seen in this thread.
Shows how much Floridians know. I, for one, didn't wear a jacket today.
Did others notice? BUMP signs on 32nd!
"I have been teaching my daughter about both of these candidates since they've been running. This election will no doubt be discussed when she is taking high school government class. She is only 5,"
Puh-lease! Amy Flanders over here!
ROLLING STONES RULE!!!!
Howdily-doodily!
;)
"the fact that the nomination will go to either a female candidate and an African American candidate is not only historic, but about damn time."
THIS is what's wrong here.
I strongly believe that voting FOR someone just because they are either black or female is as ignorant and dangerous as NOT voting for someone just because they are black or female.
"I strongly believe that voting FOR someone just because they are either black or female is as ignorant and dangerous as NOT voting for someone just because they are black or female."
That's taking my comment out of context. If that's how my comment was read, then I would agree with you and hope to clarify what I meant. We cannot ignore the fact that the two Dem candidates are a woman and a black man. THE NOMINATED CANDIDATE WILL BE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE. This has never happened before, and is therefore historic. Additionally, one of these people may indeed be the first non-white person or female President of the United States. The fact that neither a person of color nor a woman have been able to achieve a nomination by the two major parties in the past is a reflection of the fact that it has taken decades for both women and people of color to become integrated into city, state and national government. Let's face it; the halls of Congress is not the most diverse cross-section of America. But in time, it will be, as it should be a cross-section of America. I only mean "about damn time" in that it's 2008 and what a wonderful thing that we have two well-qualified, closely matched candidates for the Democratic nomination, who also happen to not be white men. In fact, I think that the reason the race is so close between the two is because they both are well-equipped to be the next President of the United States. The race and gender issue is an afterthought, but is no less important.
Again, the whole point of my post was to inspire people (including my child) to become informed individuals and get involved in the democratic process. I see in no way how that is "dangerous" or "ignorant."
Kelly Clow-
You're not much funnier here than your were at First Night. I walked out on that one too.
Amy,
Thank you for clarifying your position.
Now, if I may, I'd like to respectfully address some things in your response.
"We cannot ignore the fact that the two Dem candidates are a woman and a black man. THE NOMINATED CANDIDATE WILL BE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE. This has never happened before, and is therefore historic."
I could not agree more. Despite the sarcastic comments about it, it really IS historic, not only for Grand Forks, but for the nation as a whole.
"Let's face it; the halls of Congress is not the most diverse cross-section of America. But in time, it will be, as it should be a cross-section of America."
No, ma'am. Congress should be exactly what it is, a governing body made up of representatives DIRECTLY elected by the people they represent. To expect our government to be made up of people who have not yet had their "turn" is not democratic. It is the overcasting shadow of Affirmative Action, a racist and sexist policy in and of itself.
"I only mean "about damn time" in that it's 2008 and what a wonderful thing that we have two well-qualified, closely matched candidates for the Democratic nomination, who also happen to not be white men."
That statement tacitly implies that having white men as candidates or as elected officials is a bad thing versus the current options, and even though it is a popular sentiment among certain groups of people, it is still a racist AND sexist point of view.
"The race and gender issue is an afterthought, but is no less important."
If it IS an afterthought, what makes it historic?
I would like to say that I would DEFINITELY vote for a woman or a black man...if they were the right qualified candidate. A lot of people don't know this, but Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican. So was Jeannette Rankin, the first woman elected to Congress.
Quality, not quantity.
"You're not much funnier here than your were at First Night. I walked out on that one too."
YEA!! I was hoping to get my stalker on here! How you been? You haven't anonymously e-thugged me in a while, bud. I was starting to think you had been sex offender-lawed out of your neighborhood. Good to hear that public assistance CAN do some good after all.
I hate to disappoint you but I'm not the "stalker". I live in EGF and saw you at the Empire. It was a pretty sorry "comedy" show and we left early. I'm not one to take cheap shots but frankly am tired of hearing about Florida and how great the Republican party is. Let the candidates come to GF and speak. Your VP came to Cabela's to a cautiously selected audience and I kept my mouth shut.
"I'm not one to take cheap shots"
Yeah....that's why you brought up a comedy show that happened over two years ago in a thread about politics. Sure.
Kelly, I like talking to you about politics. While I think we are coming from different places, I think we both know how to be respectful in debate. I wish it weren't over a thread; such is the interwebz! I think we could have an enjoyable coffee table discussion. I think the thing I like the most about talking to you is that you like to be informed, and that's all that I'm try to get at.
Love, peace and chicken grease!
Amy,
Thank you so much for the compliments.
I think that coffee table discussion would be a pretty good one, and I have a feeling that I'd have to come armed to the teeth with info to stay in it and come out alive!
I think politics is one of the most polite subjects a person can spar over. As an actor, I've got some of the most liberal friends a person could ever meet, and we go at it over politics like cats and dogs, but at the end of the day we all remain great friends.
Kelly Clow-
Read my post. I said you weren't funny here (meaning this thread)just as you weren't funny at First Night. You made cheap shots at the candidates coming to GF. Florida once again screwed the vote.
Mouth-breather (you don't post a name, I make one up for you.),
Read MY post. You said you weren't one to take cheap shots, and I pointed out to you that in your first post addressed to me, you immediately made your child-like argument personal by attacking my group's comedy shows.
At what point did I make cheap shots at the candidates?
"Florida once again screwed the vote."
Ummmm.....did you delete the train of thought that led from your previous point to that one?
I'm sure you learned in 5th grade math to show your work, right? Then again maybe that's how you hold conversations. "So, I went to Hugo's last night. My neighbor had a cat when I was little."
When you can form coherent thoughts on here, I'll hold grown-up conversations with you too.
"cheap shot" is the heckler from the dark claiming anonymity. I admire Kelly and Amy for standing in the light to discuss what they passionately believe in. Heck, I admire the fact that Kelly stands in the light, period. You, sir or madam, would do well to come out on the stage of debate and stand under that light. BTW... I hear Larry the Cable Guy is coming back...better get in line for your tickets. heehee
Kelly, new hater there dude. I'm your big fan. I called you out for flamin' under a screenname. Now, you champion the real name poster schtick. Fine with me, at least you vote for the right party.
Woah. Waitaminute.
Was that...was that...a COMPLIMENT?!
Seriously, I'll take it, and return it in kind, sir.
(Huh. Just when you thought you knew some people.) :)
Whoa! I'm not sure I'd want to tell anyone I'm a Retardlican at this point. Don't you know how much this administration has messed up this country? I'm pretty sure John McCain isn't gonna win. Good thing his wife is superhot and she'll be waiting for him when he loses.
kelly?, what are you doing being a republican? did florida do this to you?....you come home right this minute!!!
for the record, I have always thought kelly was funny.
bsherwood
Brad, you took the words right out of my mouth! :o)
I heard Hillary canceled her speech in GF. They won't refuel her plan on credit.
WOW, there are a ton of ugly chicks on the UND campus! (from a visitor)
Did you mean "refuel her PLANE" ?
"Retardlican?"
Ok, that's a new one! Ha, Ha! I've been called a "Rethuglican", but not a "Retardlican". That's actually really funny!
Anyway, yes, Mr. Sherwood, I'm a Republican. I've actually always been one. I just thought it was best to "keep it in the closet" while I was at the Fire Hall and SPA. I was sure the other actors would have publicly burned me at the stake for heresy!
There IS a difference between the kind of Republican I am versus the "Retardlicans"
Here's an example:
Republicans: Abraham Lincoln, William McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Martin Luther King Jr., Ronald Reagan.
Retardlicans: Ulysses S. Grant, Richard Nixon, George Bush (I and II), Dick Cheney, Pat Robertson, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly.
You get the picture.
I'm a Republican in the old sense (excepting my huge respect for Ronald Reagan). I believe in State's Rights, I believe in Civil Rights (Yep, Republicans came up with that one, folks.) I believe in strong business, I believe in Global Democracy and I believe in small government.
REAL Republicans have been hijacked by Neo Cons for the past couple of decades. That's why loons like Ron Paul have enjoyed such popularity, people want ANYTHING but the Karl Rove way of politicking.
I'm not in the far right, but I AM in the right wing. I think that describes the majority of Republicans in this country.
I just flat-out don't agree with Mr. Obama and Ms. Clinton on the majority of their policies. They want too much government interference in people's lives. There's a BIG difference between helping people, and being their nanny, despite the razor-thin line between them.
Martin Luther King Jr. wasn't a Republican!
"Martin Luther King Jr. wasn't a Republican!"
I'm sorry, you're wrong.
I researched it myself. The National Black Republican Association and many other sources close to the Reverend confirm it. Look it up online. I'd provide links, but I'm functionally illiterate when it comes to basic HTML.
Dr. king was a Republican in a time when Southern Democrats were what people nowadays associate with the Far Right Wing. They supported segregation, opposed voting rights for black Americans and basically supported the notion of minorities being inferior.
With that taken into consideration, it is not so far-fetched to think that Dr. King was Republican.
"Martin Luther King Jr. wasn't a Republican!"
Since you haven't taken the time to research and educate yourself. I'll give you the tool to do so.
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Why%20MLK%20was%20a%20Republican&tp_preview=true
McCain will be the next President. Barrack will get smoked. You can't spend all your time trashing a country, and then be elected to lead it.
Obama is a clown, it will be apparent in a very short time.
Easy to make predictions...when you're anonymous ain't it.
It's easy to make predictions when you sign your name too. You don't know that Hussein will win the Presidency or even the nomination of his own party. If EITHER one of these noobs were any good, they'd have wrapped this thing up by now and would be starting their REAL campaign.
No, McCain will own this one.
So sign your name. I didn't thinks so. Coward. I';ll sign mine when I act like a know-it-all ass. Until then, I will vote McCain and wait with the rest to see who the winner is.
Hussein. HUSSEIN. HUSSEIN!!!!!!!!!!
Typical antisemitic tactic, repeating the name over and over.
I'm glad you are so fixated on his middle name, as if it implies something other than the fact that his parents gave it to him, and it's one of the most common names in the world.
QUICK! Without looking it up, who was Hussein and what denomination of Islam was started in his wake?
Like any vote in ND counts, what a joke
Like any vote in any state matters any more... what a joke!
Fine, stay home. We'll do your thinking for you.
Besides, it gives you the advantage of bitching about EVERYTHING in government. "I didn't vote that idiot in."
You're welcome. Now just lay back, relax, and let the rest of us control your sad, little life.
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